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Length of Beard
Narrated Nafi': Ibn Umar said, The Prophet said, 'Do the opposite of what the pagans do. Keep the beards and cut the moustaches short.' Whenever Ibn 'Umar performed the Hajj or 'Umra, he used to hold his beard with his hand and cut whatever moustaches. Ibn Umar used to cut his moustache so short that the whiteness of his skin (above the upper lip) was visible, and he used to cut (the hair) between his moustaches and his beard. (Bukhari Book #72, Hadith #780)
2357 حدثنا عبد الله بن محمد بن يحيى أبو محمد حدثنا علي بن الحسن أخبرني الحسين بن واقد حدثنا مروان يعني ابن سالم المقفع قال رأيت ابن عمر يقبض على لحيته فيقطع ما زاد على الكف وقال كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إذا أفطر قال ذهب الظمأ وابتلت العروق وثبت الأجر إن شاء الله
Marwan bin Salim said I have seen Ibn Umar he used to hold his beard with his hand and cut whatever moustaches....[Abu Dawood hadeeth no: 2357 authenticated by Al-Albani]
Note that there is not a single Sahabi who opposed Abdullah bin Omar Ra by saying that cutting beard like Abdullah bin Omar Ra did is HARAM, and It is impossible that the SAHABI like Abdullah bin Omar Ra heard something from Prophet and he himself oppose him(Prophet Peace be upon him)
Allah says
(29. Then let them complete their prescribed duties and perform their vows, and circumambulate the `Atiq House.)
Commentry of Ibn e Abbas RA
قال: ثنا هشيـم، قال: أخبرنا عبد الـملك، عن عطاء، عن ابن عبـاس، أنه قال، فـي قوله: { ثُمَّ لْـيَقْضُوا تَفَثَهُمْ } قال: التفَث: حلق الرأس، وأخذ من الشاربـين، ونتف الإبط، وحلق العانة، وقصّ الأظفـار، والأخذ من العارضين، ورمي الـجمار، والـموقـف بعرفة والـمزدلفة.
Ibn 'Abbas said, regarding Saying: {“Then let them complete their prescribed duties…”} [al-Hajj: 29]:
"The duties are: shaving the head, trimming the moustache, plucking out the armpit hairs, shaving the pubic hairs, cutting the nails andtaking hair off the cheeks (and in another narration, the beard) and throwing stones at the pillars (jamarat), and staying in 'Arafah and Muzdalifah.”(translation taken from Multaqah)
(Tafseer Tabree under surah al hajj ayah 29, Ibn e abi shaiba vol 4 page 85 hadith 15668 and from other Nuskha vol 3 hadith 15673 with authentic chain and Ibne Abdul Barr mentioned this inالاستذكار 8/336 ,Shaykh Al bani authenticated in his Daeefah hadeeth no: 5453,Shaykh Ibraheem bin Basheer Al Husanawi Authenticated in Majallah Al hadith no: 27 PAGE 57]
Anotherwords from Ibne Abbas narrated by Abu Jafar al Nahas as mentioned in Ma`ani Al Quran vol 4 page 402
التفث: الحلق، والتقصير، والرمي، والذبح، والأخذ من الشارب، واللحية، ونتف الإبط، وقص الأظفار".
...Trimming the Mustaches and Beard..
Anotherwords from al Musannif ibn e abi shaiba vol 3 page 429)
"التفث: الرمي، والذبح، والحلق، والتقصير، والأخذ من الشارب، والأظفار، واللحية".
.....Trimming the beard.
حدثنـي يونس، قال: أخبرنا ابن وهب، قال: أخبرنـي أبو صخر، عن مـحمد بن كعب القُرَظيّ، أنه كان يقول فـي هذه الآية: { ثُمَّ لْـيَقْضُوا تَفَثَهُمْ }: رمي الـجِمار، وذبح الذبـيحة، وأخذ من الشاربـين واللـحية والأظفـار، والطواف بـالبـيت وبـالصفـا والـمروة.
Muhammad bin Ka'ab Al Quradhiused to say, regarding the verse: {"Then let them complete their prescribed duties…"} [al-Hajj: 29] what has been stated above, and in it is his saying "...and trimming the moustache and beard."
(Tafseer Tabree under surah al hajj ayah 29 and Ibne Abdul Barr in At Tamheed (3/38 فتح البر) Shaykh Ibraheem bin Basheer Al Husainawi Authenticated in Risalah Al hadith no: 27 PAGE 56, Shaykh Muqabbil bin Hadee said the chain is Hasan in Al Jame fe Al Ahkam al Lahiyah page 145,Authenticated by Shaykh Al Bani in Sissilah Daeefa hadeeth no:5453]
حدثنـي مـحمد بن عمرو، قال: ثنا أبو عاصم، قال: ثنا عيسى وحدثنـي الـحارث، قال: ثنا الـحسن، قال: ثنا ورقاء جميعاً، عن ابن أبـي نـجيح، عن مـجاهد: { ثُمَّ لْـيَقْضُوا تَفَثَهُمْ } قال: حلق الرأس، وحلق العانة، وقصّ الأظفـار، وقصّ الشارب، ورمي الـجمار، وقصّ اللـحية.
Mujahid (tabiee) said regarding Saying: {“Then let them complete their prescribed duties…”} [al-Hajj: 29]:Shaving the head, shaving the pubic hair, trimming the nails, trimming the mustache, and throwing the stones at Jamaar(pillars), trimming the beard.(Translation taken from Multaqa)[Commentary of Qur`an by Tabree 17/150 Authenticated by Shaykh Muqabbil bin Hadee in Al Jame fe Al Ahkam al Lahiyah page 145,Authenticated by Shaykh Al Albani in Silsilah Daeefa hadeeth no: 5453]
Al-Muharabi said:
حدثنـي نصر بن عبد الرحمن الأودي، قال: ثنا الـمـحاربـي، قال: سمعت رجلاً يسأل ابن جُرَيج، عن قوله: { ثُمَّ لْـيَقْضُوا تَفَثَهُمْ } قال: الأخذ من اللـحية، ومن الشارب، وتقلـيـم الأظفـار، ونتف الإبط، وحلق العانة، ورمي الـجمار.
"Al Muharabi said I heard a man ask Ibn Jurayj regarding His Saying: {"Then let them complete their prescribed duties…"} [al-Hajj: 29], and he said: "Trimming the beard and the moustache..."" (translation taken from Multaqa)
[Reported by Ibn Jarir under surah al hajj ayah 29,Authenticated by Shaykh Muqabbil bin Hadee in Jame fe Al Ahkam Lahiyah page 148]
عن غندر عن شعبة عن منصور
Ibraheem AL Nakha`ee used to cut his hairfrom Cheeks and beard
[Ibn e abi shaiba hadith 25473,Authenticated by Shaykh Muqabbil bin Hadee in Jame fe Ahkam Lahiya page 149, Imam Baghwi also quoted in Sharah as sunnah vol 12 page 1089 the saying of Ibraheem al Nakhi (tabiee sagheer) that (Sahaba) Used to cut their beards on the sides.]
Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that when Salim ibn Abdullah intended to go into ihram he would call for some scissors and trim his moustache and beard before setting off and before going into ihram.
[Muwatta Imam Malik Book #20, Hadith #20.59.199, This athar is weak according to Shaykh Muqabbil because Imam Malik said he had heard, he is not quoting the name of the person. But we can use this athar in support)
حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَامِرٍ الْعَقَدِيُّ عَنْ أَفْلَحَ قَالَ : كَانَ الْقَاسِمُ إذَا حَلَقَ رَأْسَهُ أَخَذَ مِنْ لِحْيَتِهِ وَشَارِبِهِ .
(Whenever he used to cut his hair from head he used to cut from his mustaches and beard)
[Ibn e Abi Shaiba Vol 8 page no: 375 hadeeth no: 25996, Authenticated by Shaykh Muqabbil bin Hadee as he said chain is authentic in Jame fe al Ahkam Lahiya page 148,Shaykh Ibraheem bin Basheer Al Husainavi Authenticated this in Risalah Al Hadeeth no: 27 page 57]
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Trim closely the moustache, and grow beard, and thus act against the fire-worshippers. (Sahih Muslim Book #002, Hadith #0501)
25999- حَدَّثَنَا وَكِيعٌ ، عَنْ شُعْبَةَ ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ أَيُّوبَ ، عَنْ أَبِي زُرْعَةَ ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ ، أَنَّهُ كَانَ يَأْخُذُ مِنْ لِحْيَتِهِ مَا جَازَ الْقُبْضَةَ.
Abu Huraira RA used to cut what extended beyond a fist-length.[Ibn e abi shaiba Vol 8 page 375 hadith 25999]
The narrator of this hadeeth is Amr bin Ayyub, Ibn e hibban Mentioned him in his Thiqqat 7/224 and 225
and Shobah is Narrating from him, The Rule of Shobah is that he only narrates from Trustworthy narrators according to Him. (Tahdeeb at tahdeeb vol 1 page 4)...Because of these two Tawtheeqaat Amr bin Ayyub is considered as hasan al hadith
"I was informed by an old man - I think he was from the people of Madinah - who said: "I saw Abu Hurayrah trim the hair from his cheeks." And he said: "And I saw him with a yellowish beard." [Reported by Ibn Sa'd in 'at-Tabaqat' (4/334)].
(He used to trim his beard) Narrated by Ibne abi shaiba8/375,Ibne Abdul Barr in Al Istedhkaar 28/63, Khallal in Al Tarjul page 13 Shaykh Muqabbil bin Al Hadi said the chain is authentic in Jame fe ahkam Lahiyah page 147]
"حدثنا وكيع عن أبي هلال؛ قال: سألت الحسن وابن سيرين فقالا: لا بأس به أن تأخذ من طول لحيتك
Abi Hilal Said i asked Al hasan and Ibn e Sireen they said: There is no harm to take from the length of beard[Ibn e abi shaiba vol 8 Page 376 no: 26000]
Note That Abi Hilal is Mutakallim feeh that is Jarh and Tadeel both are on him and he is Truthful La`ieen. accroding to Yahya bin Maieen There is nothing wrong in him and his narrations from Qatadah are weak(and here he is narrating from Hasan and Ibn Sireen), we are quoting his narrations in support
وكان الحسن يأخذ من طول لحيته، وكان ابن سيرين لا يرى بذلك بأسًا
Al Hasan Trimmed from the Length of His Beard and Ibn e Sireen did not see anything wrong in it.[At Tamheed li Ibn Abdul Barr 14/46]
So it seems that this Athar is Correct.
a) The stance of Imam Ahmad Bin hamble
Shaykh AlBani said:
al-Khallal reported from Imam Ahmad that he was asked about taking from the beard, so he said: "'Ibn Umar used to cut off that which was in excess of a fistful," and it is as if this was Ahmad’s opinion. Harb said: “I said to him (Ahmad): "So, what is meant by 'leaving it'?" He replied: "It is reported from the Prophet that this is what 'leaving' was, according to him.".......Then al-Khallal reported by way of Ishaq, who said: “I asked Ahmad about a man who trims from his cheeks, so he said: "He should take off his beard what is in excess of a fistful." I said: "And the hadith of the Prophet: "Trim the moustache and leave the beard"?" He replied: "He takes from its length and from under his neck," and I saw Abu 'Abdullah (Ahmad) trim its length and take from under his neck."['as-Silsilah ad-Da'ifah' (5/375)]
b) Imam Shafiee said
وأحب إلى لو أخذ من لحيته وشاربيه حتى يضع من شعره شيئا لله
c) Imam Shamsuddeen al-Maqdisi(RA) states, 'It is forbidden to shave the beard and it is not makrooh to trim what is in excess of a fist's length because this is supported by the practice of Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Umar, Radi-Allahu anhu,.' (Kitaabul Furoo vol.1 pg.130)
d) Malaki Madhab
Imam Nawawi said that
قال القاضي عياض - رحمه الله - تعالى - يكره حلقها وقصها وتحريقها ، وأما الأخذ من طولها وعرضها فحسن ، وتكره الشهرة في تعظيمها كما تكره في قصها وجزها . قال : وقد اختلف السلف هل لذلك حد ؟ فمنهم من لم يحدد شيئا في ذلك إلا أنه لا يتركها لحد الشهرة ويأخذ منها ، وكره مالك طولها جدا
e) Qurtubi al-Maalikihas also mentioned something similar to this in his commentary of Sahih Muslim. (see al-Mufhim vol.1 pg.513)
f) Abu Waleed Baji said
Malik said that it was desirable – i.e. to trim the beard and moustaches – because taking from their length does not change the creation from its beauty, as regards shaving them clean it, is like the shaving of the hair of a woman, and it is forbidden for her to do so, the same thing applies to shaving the beard and moustaches as this changes the creation and causes mutilation. But what goes beyond its beauty and becomes disheveled, then it is permissible to take from it.[AlMuntaqi sharah alMawatta quoted by Islamweb fatwa: 87648]
g) Shaykh Albani RA concluded':
So, the authentic narrations contain that which is a proof for the permissibility of trimming the beard or taking from it, and that it was a well known practice amongst the Salaf. This is in opposition to what some of our brothers from Ahl al-Hadith think, those who are severe against allowing the trimming of the beard, clinging to the general saying of his "…and leave the beard!" without paying attention to the fact that what was understood from the general meaning was not intended due to the lack of the action of the Salaf upon this interpretation, and amongst them are those who reported the general hadith itself, and they are: 'Abdullah bin 'Umar, and his hadith is in the two 'Sahih's; Abu Hurayrah, and his hadith is in 'Sahih Muslim,' and I have given the origins of both in 'Jilbab al-Mar'ah al-Muslimah' (p. 185-187); and Ibn 'Abbas, and his hadith is in 'Majma' az-Zawa'id' (5/169).
And from that in which there is no doubt is that the reporter of the hadith is the most knowledgeable about the intended meaning of it than those who did not hear it from the Prophet (peace be upon him), and he is the more enthusiastic in following it than them.
al-Khallal has reported from them (Ibn 'Umar and Abu Hurayrah) in 'at-Tarajjul' (p. 11) with two authentic chains, and he reported from Imam Ahmad that he was asked about taking from the beard, so he said: "'Ibn Umar used to cut off that which was in excess of a fistful," and it is as if this was Ahmad’s opinion. Harb said: “I said to him (Ahmad): "So, what is meant by 'leaving it'?" He replied: "It is reported from the Prophet that this is what 'leaving' was, according to him."
And it is well known that the narrator is the most knowledgeable about what he narrates than others, especially when he one who is very strict about following the Sunnah - such as Ibn 'Umar - and he saw his Prophet - the one who ordered with leaving it - day and night, so reflect upon this!
Then al-Khallal reported by way of Ishaq, who said: “I asked Ahmad about a man who trims from his cheeks, so he said: "He should take off his beard what is in excess of a fistful." I said: "And the hadith of the Prophet: "Trim the moustache and leave the beard"?" He replied: "He takes from its length and from under his neck," and I saw Abu 'Abdullah (Ahmad) trim its length and take from under his neck."
And I have expanded a little bit here by mentioning the sayings of some of the Salaf and imams due to their strength and due to the misconception of many people that this is in opposition to the general "and leave the beard," and they did not pay attention to the principle that when an element from the elements of the general ruling is not acted upon, then is it proof that it is not intended meaning."
(as-Silsilah ad-Da'ifah' (5/375) taken from Multaqa)
One more thing to note that there are others who said that even trimming beard is wrong
This is whole chapter from Ibne Abi Shaybah
"ما قالوا في الاخذ من اللحية" What they say on cutting from beard
Ghundar narrated to us, from Shu'bah, from Mansoor who said, "I heard Ataa ibn Abee Rabaah (the taabi'ee) saying, 'They used to like to leave the beard except in Hajj or Umrah, and Ibraaheem used to take from the sides of his beard.'"
And he narrates, 'Aa'idh ibn Habeeb narrated to us, from Ash'ath, from al-Hasan (i.e., al-Basree) who said, "They used to allow for what was in excess of what is gripped by the hand of the beard, that it be taken from."
And he narrates, Aboo Aamir al-Aqdee narrated to us, from Aflah who said, al-Qaasim (the taabi'ee) when he shaved his head would take from his beard and moustache."
And he narrates, Alee ibn Haashim and Wakee narrtaed to us, from Ibn Abee Laylaa, from Naafi, from Ibn Umar, "That he used to take what was above a hands grip." Wakee said, "What was in excess of a hands-grip."
And he narrates, Wakee narrated to us, from Aboo Hilaal who said, "I asked al-Hasan (i.e., al-Basree) and Ibn Seereen who both said, "There is no harm for you to take from the length of your beard."
And he narrates, Wakee narrated to us, from Sufyaan, from Mansoor, from Ibraaheem (an-Nakha'ee) who said, "They used to take something from and tidy their beards and take from the sides."
source of Translation: http://www.kalamullah.com/brothers01.html
a) Prophet Peace be upon him himself said
Prophet sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam said “Allaah is beautiful and loves beauty.[Sahih Muslim Book #001, Hadith #0164]
b) Narrated jabir ibn Abdullah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) paid visit to us, and saw a dishevelled man whose hair was disordered. He said: Could this man not find something to make his hair lie down? He saw another man wearing dirty clothes and said: Could this man not find something to wash his garments with. (Abu Dawood Book #32, Hadith #4051 authenticated by al-AlBani)
c) Mawatta Imam Malik Book 51, Number 51.2.7:
Yahya related to me from Malik from Zayd ibn Aslam that Ata ibn Yasar told him that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, was in the mosque when a man came in with dishevelled hair and beard. The Messenger of Allah. may Allah bless him and grant him peace, motioned with his hand thathe should be sent out to groom his hair and beard. The man did so and then returned. The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Isn't this better than that one of you should come with his head dishevelled, as if he were a shaytan?"(Ibn Abdul Barr said in at-Tamheed 5/50 " ولا خلاف عن مالك أن هذا الحديث مرسل وقد يتصل معناه من حديث جابر وغيره
c) The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) recommended combing hair, and said, “Whoever has hair, let him take care of it.” (Abu Dawood, Kitaab al-Tarajjul, 3632. Al-Albaani said in Saheeh Sunan Abi Dawood: it is hasan saheeh. Hadeeth no. 3509)
Some Important links
a) In the Light of Islam - Growing the Beard - Bilal Philips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJOlikxpDbM
b) Article The-Beard-between-Salaf-Khalaf-by-Muhammad-Jibaly (the pdf article)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/7719217/The-Beard-between-Salaf-Khalaf-by-Muhammad-Jibaly
c) A detailed discussion on this issue
http://ahlalhdeeth.cc/vbe/showthread.php?t=974
d) Lecture of Shaykh al Muhaddith Zubair Ali Zai of Pakistan, He clearly said "It is Proven Mutlaqan that Sahaba and Tabiyeen trimed the beard even other then Hajj" see from Minutes 1:50 onwards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GF6_JMiKaw&feature=BF&list=PL4E29012C9EECA4CF&index=8
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